919 Gang: August 2011

Wednesday, August 31, 2011

A dear man

Good evening, 919 Gang. Last night Bob Kittle informed us of the death of Ed Fike.

DIANA MORTENSON writes:

I'm sorry to hear about Mr. Fike. He was a dear man whom I had the privilege to work for. He called me "Miss Diana" in his gentle Southern style. I was his secretary in the Office of News & Editorial Analysis days in the old Land Title Building downtown and on the 4th floor in Mission Valley after the move. After a couple years, ours was one of the offices that was pegged as "deadwood" and headed for the chopping block. I had the good fortune to tag along with Mr. Fike into the Newsroom when he became executive assistant to new editor Jerry Warren. Eventually he transferred upstairs as Editor of the Editorial Page after Ed Nichols retired.
He was blessed with an adoring wife (Amy), four lovely daughters (Rosa, Evelyn, Amy & Melinda), four sons-in-law and 10 grandchildren. (Maybe more by now.)

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NICK CANEPA writes:

Go ahead and tell David Ogul that our beat people are working constantly during games, putting stuff on our site, and I mean constantly. The work is much harder than ever before. Stuff is put on line immediately. Try and tell Bill Center and Kevin Acee they aren't working hard. These guys are multi-tasking and working their butts off DURING GAMES. If Ogul wants to go to ESPN's cast of thousands to find a score a second after a game, good for him. If he wants to know what's going on, read what our guys write. But what he's saying here is terribly unfair to dedicated, hard-working people. It's safe to say I'm ticked off. Unless you've worked in sports -- and you have, Jack -- you have no idea that this is the hardest job on the newspaper. Baseball beat guys are right on deadline nearly every night to get a story in, not just the score. I've worked on newsside and used to laugh at those who had one byline a month thinking people in sports had it easy. It's impossible for me to believe any sports section in the country with a staff our size is doing a better job. These people are really good. I'll be on this paper 40 years next month, Jack, and I'm tired of hearing this negative crap about a newspaper that treated most everybody in your gang well. They were given jobs, and there weren't armed guards keeping them from going someplace else (where they would have found more people complaining).

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REBER: Last night David Farmer wrote that he had an upright Underwood typewriter for sale. A few minutes ago I passed him responses from three people interested in the typewriter, and, judging by what they wrote, I suspect that typewriter is sold.

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REBER: Warm wishes for a Happy Birthday (Sept. 1) to Lew Little.

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JIMMY THORNTON writes:

THIS IS A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE. PLEASE TAKE NOTE.

Actually this is a question: Was it Bob and Ray, top photo below, or Lohman and Barkley, bottom photo, who came up with a subliminal message that they broadcast at a zillion decibels? What grand memories many of us have of these radio nut cases. Once Bob and Ray tested a new car by dropping it from an aircraft onto concrete below. It was radio, of course, but the sound effects left no doubt what happened to the car. Another broadcast they introduced the president of Slow Talkers of America to the president of Fast Talkers of America (and the frustrated conversation was a delight). Heard B&R in Texas. But caught L&B on radio in San Diego (as broadcast from LA). I think Nick Canepa alerted me to it. Many a laugh. Gee, I have a hat just like Lohman’s. I’m almost famous!

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CHUCK BOYD writes:

          The very excited weather people (OH BOY. WIND & RAIN & FLOODS) were warning everyone in South Carolina to evacuate to the west.
          So I flew to Oakland. It was a planned vacation to see my daughter.
          I kept a weather eye of course and saw Charleston was spared.
          Hope San Diego is well-weathered as I visit my son there this week.

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JOE GANDELMAN writes:

          Greetings, this catches me as I'm about to head to LA to do two malls and prepare to leave on my national school tour on 9/4. The hurricane has had an impact: I was originally going to do my first show in New York state on 9/12. This has been totally changed now due to hurricane impact. I will do the first one in West Virginia, Ohio or North Carolina. They are working on routing now.
          On SignOn and timely stories: Yes, truly, perceptions have changed about what can be tolerated on old stories. I tend to go to sites that best update. On my own site www.themoderatevoice.com my frustration is always we don't update enough because there is no one doing it fulltime. So I often can do quick, timely things linked to the news when I get a chance. When I go to a site I'm a lot more inclined to go to a site that is updated rather than having the same story or post that it did days or even hours ago.
          Also, a tip, one of the fastest growing news/tabloid type sites in the world is the daily Mail's. It is addicting:
www.mailonline.com
          On this tour the idea is to do the schools for nine months but also use the travel for the things I want to write since I will be all over the country between Sept. 4 and May 31. On the UT: it keeps looking smaller and smaller.
          But it is clearly a paper still put out by people with talent, and dedicated, knowledgeable editors. it's a victim of the times -- and of a corporate bottom line.
          BUT on the website? They cannot be stringent enough on the need to feed the beast not just each day but several times a day.
          If you follow the Huffington Post, they re-lead their site a few times a day at the very least.

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GENE CIECHANOWSKI forwards:
The best fisherman in the world.
http://www.arkive.org/osprey/pandion-haliaetus/video-00.html

REBER: This site took forever to load; your results may be different.

Jack Justus Reber

P.O. Box 2239
Ramona, CA 92065
U.S.A.

Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Ed Fike

Good evening, 919 Gang. I remember the day I figured out I was an"oldtimer." It was the first time obituary writer Jack Williams told me a former co-worker had died and asked if I cared to contribute some quotes for the obit. Sadly, since publishing these nightly reports I have had to report the deaths of many more long-time co-workers. We have another tonight.

BOB KITTLE writes:

I hope you are doing well. Thank you for holding the Copley diaspora together with the 919 blog!
Might you inform the group that former Union editorial page editor Ed Fike died on Friday of heart failure at age 91? Ed was editorial page editor from 1976 to 1990, when he retired. Earlier, he worked for Jim Copley, writing his speeches and performing other services. In retirement, Ed was instrumental in bringing the Midway aircraft carrier museum to San Diego. He was an unalloyed conservative who always fought for what he believed was best for San Diego and America. Not everyone shared his conservative views, but no one could ever discount his commitment.

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REBER: Several members responded when we read the Gerri Ross had been approached by a fellow claiming to have been an associate of Gerri's late husband, Charlier, long ago.

GERRI ROSS writes:

          Thanks to all of you for caring. I haven't seen or heard from the "stranger" any more, if I do a call will go out to 911, also 919. I feel so BLESSED--friends who care, and family who love me. I'm doing very well now and enjoying life.
          Again many, many thanks

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          SANDI DOLBEE writes:
          Hi Jack! I love your posts. Thank you for the time and effort you put into nurturing all of us. I wanted to reach out to former colleagues to find out if they've had any luck getting health insurance? I received a notice that my Cal-Cobra expires Oct. 1, and I've since been turned down for an individual policy. Any advice from anyone?
          Thanks much.

REBER: This topic keeps popping up. If you have any advice, I'm guessing many members would welcome it.

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DAVID OGUL writes:
On your comment about Signon being outdated. I agree. I'm not saying this as a criticism, but as a suggestion to my many friends and former co-workers who are working hard at the U-T and giving it their all. It is very frustrating as a voracious consumer of news to look at the Signon site this morning, for instance, and see stories that are three days old (Principal spent money on wine, dog treats) still occupying prime real estate on the home page. This is a daily occurrence, and it prompts me to go to other sites to get my news. It's something I hate doing because I strongly believe in the U-T and want it to thrive, but I'm not interested in old news. When the Padres, Aztecs, Chargers - any local team - plays a game, a quick wrapup, even if it's just a few graphs, needs to be on the home page immediately. Not 20 minutes later. Not 10 minutes later. Immediately. If a score is not up, I go directly to cnnsi.com or espn.com and can read a quick wire story, plus box scores. U-T reporters and editors are every bit as good, and in most cases better, than the people who work at those websites, so what's the deal?

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DAVID FARMER writes:

Jack, heretofore the 919 News has not been a sales medium, and maybe you'll want to keep it that way. But I have an upright Underwood that works (it got me through college, so it's at least 50 years old) and is in good condition. It's surplus to my needs now. I'm wondering if someone on your list might want to buy it. From eBay and Craigslist I gather that it would bring about $50. I'm planning to offer it through one or both of them unless you think it would appeal to a present or former newsie. Whatever your answer, I'll be comfortable.

REBER: Given all the interest in manual typewriters that has been shown in these reports, I'm guessing you will find a buyer. I'll be happy to forward any responses to David.

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GENE CIECHANOWSKI forwards:

This is really incredible! It is truly amazing that someone could not only create this, but also make it to change when you move your mouse / cursor. if you like, you can just sit back and let it change by itself. Either way it is awesome!!! ALSO, IF YOU PUT YOUR CURSOR RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, IT IS AMAZING.
Be sure to run your mouse over the screen slowly.
Click here: http://inoyan.narod.ru/kaleidoskop.swf

GENE CIECHANOWSKI forwards:

Stunning High Def aerial photos of Israel.
http://vimeo.com/15034110

REBER: This one was incredibly slow for me, but I'm guessing many of you have faster Internet connections.

Jack Justus Reber

P.O. Box 2239
Ramona, CA 92065
U.S.A.

Monday, August 29, 2011

Good night, Irene

Good evening, 919 Gang. Once again, our network of correspondents reports on Hurricane Irene. Generally, it's good news.

RICK SMITH writes:

It's about 11:30 a.m. in Griswold, Connecticut. We've had sheets of rain off and on for 8 or 9 hours, but the basement has not flooded and no trees have fallen. There are a few, small branches on the ground and lots of leaves. My son-in-law, a veteran of Florida hurricanes in his youth, says the worst is behind us. I've seen the towering eucalypti in Scripps Ranch swing and bend in a winter storm, but those winds are nothing to match this, with exception of a Boehner-Pelosi debate. Big-time evergreens, densely grown, still are under constant attack, their opponent as relentless as Rocky Marciano pursuing Archie Moore. My mother-in-law in nearby Uncasville lost a screen off her second floor window. I think the eye of the hurricane passed over Bridgeport, Connecticut, about 70 miles southwest, probably 30-35 miles from New York City. Good night, Irene.

FRED SIDHU writes:

          I rode out the storm safe and sound in my hotel room. I ended up going to a party for some of the US Open players last night at the Polish Consulate in the City. There was very, very little traffic going into Manhattan and even less traffic getting out of Manhattan back to Queens. I got back to my hotel around 9 p.m. before the brunt of the storm hit sometime after midnight.
          I'm here at the tennis center right now checking to see if there is any damage. I saw several trees that had blown down and a few flooded streets. I think we dodged a bullet and we very fortunate there was not heavier damage.
          There is a conference call later today where officials will discuss the status of the transit system and when it is going to reopen. It is still cloudy, humid with a few showers. The wind is still a bit strong and gusty.
          Take care everyone.

PAULINE REPARD writes:

          As a reporter still at the U-T, I want to weigh in on a couple of topics even though I know I shouldn't attempt to explain things beyond my pay grade.
          Regarding the shark story staying in the top spot too long on signonsandiego.com, this could be an answer: You may need to do, as apparently the lingo goes, a "hard refresh." That is, at the end of the signon url, type a question mark and the word "clear" without the quote marks. It would look like this: signonsandiego.comblahblah?clear.
          For reasons seemingly known to no one, if a viewer/reader scans signon often and hits a regular "refresh" often, it will stop refreshing. It happened to me on a Monday after the El Cajon police officer had been shot. I worked that story Sunday night, the Monday morning crew worked it, yet all I could find on Monday was an AP story on signon's front page. That was posted accidentally for maybe five minutes, but my refresh did no good and that's still all I saw from home later that night.
          We had thought it was just an in-house problem, but it's not.
          Now, if that shark story really remained on top long into Saturday, the only other answer I could think of is that the U-T doesn't put national/international stories in that prominent left position very often.
          They sometimes are with a horizontal head below the flag and maybe below the horizontal index band, and can be overlooked.
          Next, about a week ago folks were wondering what was up with newspaper delivery, who is doing what. I heard that our carriers are going to start delivering the LA Times again, as well as whatever other papers they carry.
          I would have to imagine that some LA Times carriers will lose their jobs, while ours will earn more.

PHIL McMAHAN writes:

          Jack, all the comments about not having up-to-date reports about Irene reminds me of a saying that we, jokingly, used when I was working at the UT. "If it's news, it's news to us". Maybe there was more truth to that than we realized.
          Actually, I'm wondering if perhaps the "powers" are saying that we want the UT to be a strictly "local" news source? Today there are so many news sources, why devote your staff to news that people can get elsewhere? Not saying it's the way I think it should be done, but I too may be suffering from RS (retirement syndrome).
          Then on Arthur Golden's post: I'm sure he realizes that where he is, the drug cartels are not real friendly with journalists. You may "lose your head" if you write something, especially if it's on P1.

REBER: Okay, if the U-T wants to focus on local news, that's not exactly what is bugging me. Remember all the times we have heard the printed paper disparaged with the comment that it was never up to date? By the time the paper was delivered, the news was 12 to 24 hours old? I checked signon for the first time at 1 a.m. Monday, and the lead story is the same story that led the paper delivered to my door Sunday morning. Is it still news? Do I need Signon if I have read the printed paper?

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ELIZABETH DOUGLASS writes:

          RE the recent items on what's available about you on the Internet. If you're interested in making it a little harder for the tracking and data mining sites [Spokeo, etc.] to collect information about you and your Internet wanderings, go to this site www.privacychoice.org. There are tools that help you opt out of the Internet advertising network [probably the honor system, but still], various social networking tracking systems [Spokeo et al] and others. In addition, there is a Firefox browser add-in called TrackerBlock that tells sites to knock off the tracking, etc. There are settings that you can adjust as desired.
          Also, if you've been reading the Wall Street Journal's enlightening series on Internet privacy, then you know that sites such as dictionary.com install something like 50+ cookies with every visit, and that popular applications such as the music player Pandora routinely collect [and sell, you can be sure] completely unrelated information such as your location [iPhone and iPad apps with GPS turned on]. Google and other search engines may even get more information from you than you get from them in a single visit.
          I'm not a privacy freak by any means, but I would prefer not to have information about me collected without my permission [let alone without a thank you or a cut of the money made from it]! I realize it's an arms race we won't ever win. Now that many people are aware of cookies, for example, many companies have moved on to "supercookies" that reinstall themselves or hide out in places you are not likely to find and delete them. Even so, I like making it harder for them.
          Anyway, if you care about that sort of thing, you might want to check out a search engine called startpage.com -- it doesn't do tracking and such. I don't use it exclusively because it's not as expansive as the better-known ones, but I usually start with it and move on to the others if I don't find what I want. FWIW
          P.S. -- In case folks don't know this -- you can browse in "private" mode in both Internet Explorer and Firefox [the options are under the browser tools menu for IE, and under the top left "firefox" button "Start private browsing" in Firefox.] I don't know the whereabouts of that option in Safari or Google Chrome, but they are surely there somewhere. The function tries to limit the influx of cookies, etc.

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REBER: The 919 Gang sends Happy Birthday wishes (Aug. 29) to Patricia Dibsie and Frank Green.

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PAM JOURNEY writes:
More information regarding doing family history: San Diego has a great Genealogy Society library located at 7343 Ronson Road, Suite O, SD 92111. Telephone number is (858) 279-7347. The library is available 24/7 to members and is open on Thursday to non-members. Well-worth your time. The SD Genealogy Society has free classes for beginners as well as many classes on different subjects useful to the genealogists as they build their family tree. Their website at www.casdgs.org ,or just put in San Diego Genealogical Society, will tell you about the society and its many helpful programs. Doing family history is the most fun when shared with others who let you tell your family story because they know you will listen and understand their need to tell their family story. More than 500 members bring lots of knowledge to share in this great society.

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BARBARA MOSS writes:
Thanks to Janet Lowe for the clip of the Naked Balloon Dance. Sooooooooooooooooo funny.

REBER: Of course, that raises two obvious questions: Would it have been that funny if the players had been women? And would I have run it? Never mind answering the second question. I know the answer.

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REBER: This next one is well worth your time. The Polish Holocaust survivors are speaking Spanish, but there are English subtitles.

GENE CIECHANOWSKI forwards:

Very poignant.
Click here: YouTube - JAI - Los numeros de la vida

Jack Justus Reber

P.O. Box 2239
Ramona, CA 92065
U.S.A.

Sunday, August 28, 2011

On the scene

Good evening, 919 Gang. We have first-hand reports on Hurricane Irene.

FRED SIDHU writes (7 a.m. Saturday):

          I'm here in Queens where we are waiting for the storm to arrive. The tennis center is going to close early today and remain closed all day tomorrow. In NYC, all transit is shutting down at noon today. I've heard this is the first time in history this has happened. I heard an initial story about the cranes at the top of the new WTC building being able to withstand 50 mph winds before they topple over. I have not heard any follow-up to that story.
          Gas prices are rising. I saw a few gas stations selling gas at $4.80 yesterday. My hotel in Queens is on high ground and should not be affected by flooding.
          I'll keep everyone posted on what is happening.

RICK SMITH writes (11:15 a.m. Saturday):

I am visiting my daughter and grandkids in Griswold, Conn., about 100 miles northeast of New York City, 70 miles Southeast of Hartford, and about 20 miles from Mystic, Conn. (Julia Roberts, "Mystic Pizza", etc.) My son-in-law went out and purchased, out of necessity, a $975 generator yesterday as supply was running out. We stocked up on some groceries at a crowded "Stop 'n' Shop" in nearby Uncasville, where my mother-in-law resides, and I made sure my rental car had a full tank of gas at a very crowded Valero (reminded me of the gas crisis in San Francisco in 1973). And now we're waiting for our introduction to Irene. It's 2:15 p.m. Eastern as I write this. Irene is expected to arrive here in about 12 hours. This truly is the calm before the storm, just overcast, warm, and muggy. We're on high ground, but Jeff (son-in-law) is certain there will be flooding in the basement. Susie, my wife, is with her mother at the Mohegan Tribe senior living enclave in Uncasville. I was going to take Connor, 8, and Drew, 7, to the minor league Connecticut Tigers baseball game tonight, but the game is canceled. I'll let you know how we come out of this.

REBER: Thanks for the updates. And stay safe. Last night I shared my disappointment that Irene was not the top story on the U-T's web site. As of 1:15 a.m. Sunday, it still has not filtered to the top.

ARTHUR GOLDEN writes:

          Jack Reber's comment at the top of Saturday's oldtimer's report about the impact of retirement on news judgment was right on target.
          In my old age, I have always assumed that the murder of a police officer was Page 1 news. But not in the Dominican Republic.
          I have just returned from an extended trip through that Caribbean country, riding local buses and mixing with working-class men and women. The problem everyone talks about is crime.
          Last week, the chief of the Dominican national police announced that a record 30 of his men have been shot to death in separate crimes so far this year. That was news to me, because In my daily reading of the Dominican press I had failed to notice stories about the murders.
          Where were the stories?
          Certainly not on the front page.
          A few days after the chief's grim announcement, a police officer was shot dead rushing to the aid of a pedestrian who was being robbed at gunpoint in the capital, Santo Domingo. The nationally circulated daily Hoy gave that event four paragraphs and played it on Page 6.
          And two days later, gunmen robbing passengers aboard a bus on the outskirts of the capital shot to death one of the riders, a police officer who was about to draw his service revolver. Hoy gave that murder three paragraphs and played it on Page 8.
          In the succeeding days, I searched the press for a followup to each of those police murders. Not a word appeared.
          Maybe retirement does indeed dull one's news judgment!

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JOE BROWN writes:

One of the negative aspects of prescription drugs (I take six daily) is that they prompt strange dreams. Last night for instance I spent about an hour of sleep remembering and debating whether we should include a "the" before any mention of the El Cortez Hotel, since "el" translates to "the" in Spanish. Do we say we are going to El Cortez Hotel or going to the El Cortez Hotel? Same applies to El Camino Real. And as far as style goes, how often were we reminded that correctly it is the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, not Institute, and properly it is Palomar Mountain, not Mount Palomar.

REBER: The style I still follow calls it El Cortez Hotel.

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BOB RODRIGUEZ writes:

          Jack, another one of our recent outings was to Pictograph State Park approximately 5 miles out of Billings. We were in that Montana city for a medical visit anyway, so we decided to visit the park. The winding rural roadway off Interstate 90 was a treat, as it is quite picturesque. At the park, we discovered that a bit of walking is involved, but as a geezer and a crone we survived the heat and bugs. It was a beautiful day. The pictographs are difficult to see, but they are visible, although visitors are not allowed too close, and there is a $750 fine for vandalism or, I suppose, getting too close to the pictographs.
          There is a new visitor center, which has many interesting displays, including some of the more than 30,000 artifacts that have been discovered in and around the caves. It is noted that humans have visited the site for 30,000 years; lots of prehistoric and historic data. Good place to visit. Good place for walking, even in hot weather.
          Fortunately, our visit preceded my recent trip to San Diego for an overnight visit; stayed at the Sofia Hotel near Horton Plaza. Nice hotel, good bar and restaurant. Flew from Billings to Salt Lake City to San Diego on a Friday; returned the next day. (Kind of a business trip). The caves visit also preceded my trip last week, from which I still am recovering, back to Cave Junction, Ore., which is where we lived for 25 years before relocating to Lovell, Wyo. nearly two years ago. We've been talking since moving here about going back to get our vintage Suzuki Sidekick and a bunch of "treasures" that wouldn't fit in the huge truck we rented to move here. Long story that.
          Jan and I and our four cats drove to Lovell; then I flew back, rented the truck and and drove back with our son, Mike, and gdaughter, Kim. By the way, we now have six cats. Anyway, that most recent trip was a bit of a killer (for me, the geezer). Found out at the last minute that Mike was available to help get the Suzi and stuff up here. I had maybe four hours to shave, shower, pack and get to Billings for a flight. Went via SeaTac, and after a too-long layover, arrived in Medford, some 60 miles from Cave Junction, shortly before 12:30 a.m. By the time we drove to Cave Junction, it was close to 2 a.m. before I got to sleep. Next morning early we rented a 4-by-8 trailer for all our remaining junk, ran 90 errands, stopped in Grants Pass for some stuff; then made it to Bend, Ore. by around 8. Next day we drove to Idaho Falls, Idaho; followed by the next-day drive to West Yellowstone, Mont. We went through the west gate of Yellowstone National Park, through part of the huge park, and out the east gate; then to Cody, Powell and finally, Lovell. Tiring for me, even though Mike drove most of the way. Except for the many miles steered by gdaughter, Kim, who had obtained her learner's permit two days earlier. I was clenched most of the way. She did fine, but I am a champion backseat driver. Besides, having a novice at the wheel of a five-speed stick towing a trailer was, um ... interesting. And that's all the news for now from "The Bumps," that wonderfully apt name bestowed by Rick Smith when I was a Trib copy boy at 919, and kept bumping into folks in the wire room. Exit, stage right.

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KEN STONE writes:

          Regarding reverse directories online: I got email a month back from a whitepages.com flack, which I spun into a story that alarmed some readers: http://patch.com/A-k1YD
          The new twist: Your phone number is shown atop your house in an aerial photo. (That hits close to home.) The company allowed an opt-out, but it was hard as all get-out to remove your information from the database, which was at issue in a letter to the editor: http://patch.com/A-k2cm
          The chatter even moved the company's CEO to post a comment. Internet Age damage control.
          BTW, in preparing a call-for-comments story on Irene, I found a research paper on the 1858 San Diego Hurricane:
http://patch.com/A-l2Rt

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REBER: A couple of nights ago, members pointed out that video about Miss USA contestants discussing whether math should be taught in schools was a phony. But Jeff Rose also shared a link, apparently valid, to Miss USA contestants on another subject.

BONNIE ROGERS writes:

I was sure that if anyone coulld debunk that distressing video it would be the 919 Gang. But I must say, after seeing the "real" USA contestants answer the question re "evolution," I was not much heartened. What did you think?
http://tinyurl.com/434vlx2

REBER: These ladies don't win by saying what they really think; their task is to give the judges the answers they want.

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CLAUDE WALBERT writes:

Recently Lisa Petrillo asked about typewriter repairs. Please forward this information to her. Last year I found a guy named Mitchell Vass who got my ancient Olivetti portable going. His number is (858) 268-0435; e-mail is mihali@cox.net. He also has a collection of the oddest old typewriters I have ever seen, and he'll work for next to nothing for anyone who admires antique typewriters.

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KELLY MURPHY writes:

Regarding genealogy programs, I wrote a review of Reunion for Macintosh for Computerlink in 1999 http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/reviews/1999/SDUT.php.
Love that program, but I gave up my Mac for a PC and let it go. Have Family TreeMaker now. Don’t miss the Mac, but sure miss Reunion for Macintosh.

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JANET LOWE forwards:

          Jack: I don't think this is too much for your blog. A good giggle.
          The Naked Balloon Dance
          Only the British can do this with such straight faces.
http://tinyurl.com/25thwtz

DAVE COHEN forwards:

I laughed out loud at this. I think the Gang will, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlzuQfTwUk

Jack Justus Reber

P.O. Box 2239
Ramona, CA 92065
U.S.A.